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John West (1955-1961) followed up with this:
“I exchanged letters with Peter Royds, after he had sent me a copy of his book. Peter’s letters were in longhand, but my writing’s so appalling I find it easier to type, so I had, until the hard disc got thrown out, a copy of my letters to Peter to hand to send to Edward, when he expressed interest.” (luckily Edward kept a copy so we can now all enjoy them – Ed)
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Wikipedia Article
I hope that this web site has now helped to make up for the previous lack of published information about the school.
Brig. Osmaston – A Colleague and Friend – Margaret Baxter
“As Brig.Osmaston and I were both teachers, we were necessarily at different locations at HH throughout the day, only having a chance to talk during coffee in the Reilly. However, this didn’t prevent us becoming good friends, and I quickly realised what an exceptional man he was – sensible, learned, experienced in all walks of life, and above all friendly and humorous.
I was especially pleased that he and June invited me on many occasions to their Grasmere home to join in with their holiday house parties of family and students. We had superb meals, games outside, and expeditions onto the fells. One time the Brig asked me to lead a climb on Dow Crags, and I felt so honoured that he trusted me to do this. (It wasn’t a very hard one!) My most vivid memory was of a skating trip to Tarn Hows. We were playing ice hockey with walking sticks and having a great time, when the Brig tripped over and lay prone on the ice. Of course, we all rushed forward, whereupon the ice gave out some mighty cracking sounds, and we all rushed away, leaving the poor man isolated! I think it was Tim who stayed with him and manoeuvered him onto a sledge. He needed some stitches to his forehead, but was otherwise OK, and we were able to laugh about it afterwards.
One thing I remember him teaching the boys at school was a version of scouts’ pace; three steps running and 2 steps walking, making a sort of swaying movement, which you could keep up for hours.
The Brig gave me his army riding boots, and I wore them with pride when out on my pony, though they needed a bit chopping off the top of the legs. They still stand in my hall, forever known as The Brigadier’s Boots!
I feel blessed to have known such an exceptionally nice and kind man, the sort of friend you would wish were immortal!”
An email from John Mott on 18th September 2011:
Subject: Catch-up
“Hello everybody
I have been in something of a black hole recently for two reasons. The first is illness and two months later I am back to my version of normality. The second is that the Huyton Hill group (or is it now a “cohort”?) have been using my secondary e-mail address (john@johnmott.dk) instead of this one (johnmott@viaction.com). Now I never read the secondary e-mail address and it gently fills with spam that I occasionally clear out. Imagine my surprise when I found you all there after a strange silence in recent weeks, all stuck in among various types of unmentionable spam. So I have a request: please can we agree that you will use johnmott@viaction.com as my contact address in future?
You will see that I have added my brother, Bill Mott (HH 1951-1955), to the mailing list. It is perhaps him you remember Chris, because I left in the summer of 1953 and you arrived in September. Bill must have been the youngest in the school on arrival in 1951 as he was just turning seven so far as we can remember. Bill has sent quite a few photos that are now on the site and I am sure he has some recollections worthy of print.
I have said to Gordon Dyer that I am now proud to be associated with the magnificent website that we have all created under his leadership recently. My regret is that I appear to be the oldest OH (Old Huytonian) so far found. This is worrying to me and I really wonder what has happened to all the others of my era. It does, however, give me a sense of perspective when I read of the changes and developments in the school after my time. It is also a relief to have my own vague recollections corroborated by others years after I experienced them. An example is the issue or corporal punishment at the school. I am sure I experienced it from HDB and can well believe that it had ceased to be the practice by Gordon Dyer’s time, for example. I taught at Marlborough and Bryanston in the seventies and eighties by which time corporal punishment was out of practice there to all intents and purposes. I now live in Denmark where corporal punishment is illegal – even in the home.
It is funny how long term memory is so vivid when short-term memory begins to crumble! I have been amazed by what you guys have managed to remember, particularly of names and details. That struck me most when reading John West’s Recollections. I wish we had his e-mail address so that I could thank him directly. I thought the whole thing made amazing reading.
So, I have a question for you all: what happened to the School Council? In my day on regular occasions there was a meeting in the Library to review school rules. The Heads of Houses presided and HDB sat at a table by the door to his private accommodation. New rules were agreed and written up into files – one for each house – for reference. I thought it odd that rules were seldom removed and so these rules must have accumulated out of all proportion to the capacity of the school to remember – let alone enforce – them. …Or am I just dreaming? I am sure this deserves mention, given that most independent schools developed similar institutions in the sixties and seventies, possibly influenced by the advanced example of HH.
Looking forward to hearing from some of you and to getting back into the swing of group e-mails.
Best regards
John
John Mott (HH 1947-1953)”
Reply from David Porter on 27th September 2011:
Subject: RE: Catch-Up
“Greetings to all you old-boys.
Though I have been quiet for a while, I have had a chance to glimpse the email traffic and the burgeoning size of our group. Wonderful!!
There is a well-known song in Australia by a bloke called Paul Kelly that is called ‘From little things…big things grow’. It could easily describe the way our community has grown, but also the legacy we all carry from HH.
I keep reading such special reminicsences from old boys which trigger memories of my own.
I actually laughed out loud when I read of Maggie B’s distaste for Miss Walker’s lipstick. I was literally transported back to my own memory of his comments on this distasteful image…and could see in my mind’s eye the blood-red stain on the fateful cup.
I could also see the models of Henry VIII, Richard I etc. on the mantlepiece in the Crossley beside the bugles.
I remembered being scared out of my wits in the 1963 Autumn term by a television program that began on the BBC. It was called Dr. Who.
As a life-long follower of politics, a small-time participator, but one continually fascinated and moved by a sense of social justice…I remember a place where we were exposed to and urged to be intellectually engaged in this part of our civil society.
Some of my memories….
1. My first term…and watching the images from Dallas of Jack Kennedy’s assasination.
2. The 1964 General election….and Wilson’s victory.
3. Churchill’s funeral………….I just watched the whole telecast on YouTube a couple of months ago…..and cried again when the cranes on the Thames bowed their booms.
4. Wilson’s attempts to ‘protect’ the Pound and restrictions on taking curreny abroad.
5. Silly memories like wondering why Duncan Sandy’s name had a silent y, and thinking that Reginald Maudling’s name belonged to one of the horsemen of the apocolypse.
6. Martin Luther King’s ‘I had a dream’ speech.
7. King’s murder
8. Bobby Kennedy’s murder.
9. Johnson’s abrogation speech
10. The television programme celebrating the satellite link between Britain and the USA which culminated in the Beatles singing ‘All you need is love’.
11. And then the most evocative for me… the suppression of the ‘Prague Spring’. Watching Havel pleading for his nation on the Beeb, and the terrible and sinister image of Dubcek boarding that plane to Moscow.
Such was the awareness nurtured in me, and involvement that Huyton Hill made me feel about politics that it sparked my first political action.
On leaving Huyton Hill at the end of the Christmas term 1968 to go home to Borneo my plane was diverted to Moscow. The icy walls of the forbidding and unwelcoming transit area of Moscow airport found my expression. I wrote ‘Hands off Dubcek’ in the frost.
When I told my parents of what I had done…many years later….they totally freaked out.
Imagine a little 12 year old Huyton Hill boy languishing in the Gulag?! I wonder how H.M. Governernment would have handled that one? Ha ha.
Needless to say…starting secondary school in Australia in January 1969….they found this rather intense young boy a bit hard to take, especially since Snow and Illingworth were simultaneously being lauded and celebrated by this little pommy bastard as England won the Ashes that Summer.
Which of course leads me to the memory of the ‘radiogram’ and listening to Arlott et. al during our lunchtimes, his langorous west-country burr describing the action from Lord’s or Old Trafford. At HH I became a cricket ‘tragic’….which has lasted most of my life, now only diminished by the ridiculous spectacle of 20/20 stupidity. But back then a spark was ignited, and I can remember the exact moment it happened. I was sitting in the Crossley watching a film put on by Major B called, “Here come the Australians”. The opening sequence was accompanied by a soundtrack of Rolf Harris singing ‘Tie me Kangaroo down, sport’, and had vision of Norn O’Niell, Peter Burge, Garth McKenzie and all these other ‘Bronzed Aussies’ striding out onto the field. In that Summer of 1964 I then discovered the magic of ‘watching’ the cricket on the wireless. It is still my preference, enjoying the way talented wordsmiths can create a picture for my mind’s eye and evoking the spectacle through their description.
Speaking of the ‘radiogram’, do you remember ‘Travel Talk’ on a Friday for Geography with Mr. Newby? I loved opening my information pack and discovering things like a real coffee bean or wondering why the cocoa tasted so bitter when it was the foundation of sweet milk chocolate.
Before I finish I would like to say to Gordon, Edward and the others who have made all this possible a big thank you. What began as a speculative exchange of emails has grown to a wonderful celebration and coming together of like minds. I particularly liked John’s comment about short and long term memory. How true…the older I get the less I remember about last week, but instead recollect incidents from 40 years ago with increasing clarity. Be that as it may, I’m flabbergasted by the recollections and detail expressed by some of our contributors. Sadly my brain has clouded to that sort of detail, instead it snatches glimpes instead.
At 55 years old I can celebrate these 5 years at HH in a way that I couldn’t in my late teens and early twenties….even my thirties. I celebrate the good now…but it wasn’t always a smooth ride.
For many years I dwelled on my feelings of being a psychologically deprived child, thousands of miles from my Mum and Dad rather than focusing on the nurture provided by wonderful men like Major B and Brig. Osmaston in their stead. It took time, and it naturally involved forgiving my parents too.
Not a whinge….just another piece to the puzzle.
Another part of our lives.
This is the other story of Huyton Hill and the story of so many of the children of our era who were sent away to fend for ourselves.
We lived in a time when children did what they were told. We may have suffered heartache, but we were never under the impression that life was a funpark designed to continually amuse our selfish desires.
It was life…get on with it.
And there is the fundamental truth of our experience. I’m not at all sure that it was a particularly good thing to do to such small boys, but I know it was a different world back then. My consolation is the knowledge that the experience has made me a self-sufficient man, though slightly too accepting of shitty situations and definitely too naive to people’s motives.
We were directed and moulded by men who were wise and caring, who understood those realities, but who gave no truck to self-indulgence. Instead they injected a sense of duty, of service and awareness that was a counterpoint to the natural selfishness of our childish ways.
They inculcated in us a sense of honour that has now gone the way of the dinosaurs. I cannot say that I have always followed that path, but perhaps I can now see Major B nodding sagely, saying ‘chin up David’ and expecting the best from me.
I usually do, and still worry if I can live up to his high expectations.”
All the best to you all,
David
Ps. Gordon you asked if named attributions should be made on the website, I think they should. No-one should be worried about that. It seems a little bit dry to reference us as anonymous students of a particular era. So go for it, because I like to see a name to the story; it personalises it so much more.
And, as much as it grieves me, there is no way I can get to England for the reunion. How I wish I could….it will be a very special time…I know it. Nevertheless, I expect to be linked by Skype to the celebrations. That I can do!!!
Romance at Huyton Hill:
David Haythornthwaite (1947-1953)
“I went Back by chance to HH about 1 or 2 weeks after the closure and took my children round the School, I was surprised to find everything in it’s place just as I had left it many years earlier. I must have spent 2 hours reminiscing.
After some time my wife and I and 3 kids stayed for a week or so when it was turned into flats.
My son Peter enjoyed the experience so much that he took his then girl friend all the way from Essex to the lawn next to the lake and surprised her with an engagement ring. Now married 7 years.”
And I received this story from David on 5th October 2011:
David Haythornthwaite (1947-1953)
“Let me give you some idea how we extended our excitement when getting bored.
While in Scafell dormitory all of us around 13 years of age I think there were 5 of us. We had the bright idea of giving the staff some exercise; so we would stick a pin through the light cable and switch the light on and off and remove the pin which caused the fuse to blow down stairs. Well, after a few times suspicion grew because it only happened at night. After some time the Major would bound up stairs 3 stairs at a time and straight to our dormitory. Of course we were lying in bed surprised to see him and wondered what had happened. It was quite entreating listening to him bounding up the stairs. On one occasion the light was slightly moving and I can see him now looking at it standing in the doorway. He never did work it out.”
Coincidences from Chris Brand (1954-1958):
I was at Huyton Hill from January 1954 until December 1958, and then went to Wrekin College in January 1959. I hadn’t seen the HH website until you mentioned it and I find it absolutely fascinating. It has brought back many memories, and many congratulations and thanks for creating it. I remember Brigadier Osmaston well and I am sure I was there when he first arrived at HH. We called him Brig Ozzy and he was well liked as well as being highly respected by the boys. I had no idea that he served in India as a surveyor or that Tenzing was one of his sherpas. It is a bit of a coincidence because I served in the Army for 31 years and was posted to Nepal for 9 months in 1972. I managed to get to Darjeeling in 1973 and met Tenzing. I have a picture of us standing together in front of the Himalayan Mountaineering Institute of which he was Chief Instructor. I have since been back to both India and Nepal several times on various trekking and climbing expeditions. I would loved to have visited Brig Ozzy before he died and heard his stories.
I have not spotted myself in any of the group photographs and I should have been in the one for 1958. I can recognise many of those who were present (and worryingly I can still remember some of their names although I am a little unclear on what I did first thing this morning!) so perhaps I was either ill or had escaped for the day. One thing I have retained (or at least my father did) are my school reports from Huyton. I must dig them out again.
Further to my Nepal story, my flight there in 1972 took me to Kathmandu via Delhi. On arrival at Kathmandu, I was met by the movements officer, a Captain Michael Winerick, who assisted me and some other officers on our onward journey (another flight) to our base in east Nepal. His name was very familiar since I remember a Michael Winerick at Huyton whose mother, Mrs Winerick, was the matron. I put this to him and he confirmed that he was indeed the same Michael Winerick. I think we thought that this was rather a coincidence. We next met again when we were both crusty Colonels in the MOD, but I do not know where he is now.
I have been back to Huyton quite a few times since leaving to show my wife and daughters where I spent 5 years of my life. On one occasion and much to my wife’s horror, I breezed in to some of the now private apartments explaining where we sat or where we ate or where we slept. Fortunately, the occupants were out for the day!
Huyton Hill and Water memoire by Chris Malcomson (1941-1949)
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